mardi 9 février 2010

Shatter the gate towards the fire and flames


Ok, why do you want to make a deck with shattering the gates?

First, because it is a powerful card. There are very few cards that have such a big impact on the game. Compare it to spell of life to see how strong it is.

Second, it is classy. You're playing the Balrog!!!! or As would say Dragonforce:

On a cold winter morning in a time before the light
In flames of death's eternal reign we ride towards the fight
When the darkness has fallen down and the times are tough alright
The sound of evil laughter falls around the world tonight

Fighting hard fighting on for the steel through the wastelands evermore
The scattered souls will feel the hell bodies wasted on the shores
On the blackest plains in hell's domain we watch them as they go
In fire and pain now once again we know

So now we fly ever free, we're free before the thunderstorm
On towards the wilderness our quest carries on
Far beyond the sundown, far beyond the moonlight
Deep inside our hearts and all our souls

So far away we wait for the day
For the light source so wasted and gone
We feel the pain of a lifetime lost in a thousand days
Through the fire and the flames we carry on

As the red day is dawning and the lightning cracks the sky
They'll raise their hands to the heavens above with resentment to their eyes
Running back through the mid morning light there's a burning in my heart
We're banished from a time in a fallen land to a life beyond the stars

In your darkest dreams see to believe our destiny this time
And endlessly we'll all be free tonight

And on the wings of a dream so far beyond reality
All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you'll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

So far away we wait for the day
For the light source so wasted and gone
We feel the pain of a lifetime lost in a thousand days
Through the fire and the flames we carry on

Wha-o-o! Whao-o-oh! Whao-o-oh! Wha-o-o! Whao-o-oh! Whao-o-oh!

Now here we stand with their blood on our hands
We fought so hard now can we understand
I'll break the seal of this curse if I possibly can
For freedom of every man

So far away we wait for the day
For the light source so wasted and gone
We feel the pain of a lifetime lost in a thousand days
Through the fire and the flames we carry on



Ok, this is the end of my desperate attempt to reach Swedish and Finnish people! Now, let's be serious. Shattering the gates is such a beast!

It is a +1 stealth action

It is difficult to break

It has a very powerful power that stays even if you die


So you definitely want to do something with it. For this, you have to achieve two things: being able to act in several turns following each other, second you need to be able to block the "break the shatter" actions.

At the beginning, I thought I would go with Nergal because for this job, AUSPEX/ FORTITUDE is needed I guess. But I don't like the fact that Enkil cog'd Nergal is bleeding for 4. So I am exceptionnally going for advanced Nergal instead! Its special against reaction cards is looking good also, here


You don't see it often, do you?

I think it is okay to spare a bleed for 3 if you can bleed for 2 with the Cog like twice a turn + make 3 pools damage. 


So now that we know the beast, we have 6 disciplines to use [I could have used Maleficia and Stryga here but for the moment I am not familiar with the card, if you feel they go into the deck, let me know how]

The cool part is that every discipline looks good. Nothing is wasted. We can go to:


auspex for intercept

daimonion for contagion, stealth, other cards (?)

fortitude for freak drives

obfuscate for stealth

presence for majesties / entrancements

thaumaturgy for magic of the smith


I spare you the details of my deckbuilding. Here is globally the foundation of the deck I imagine:

Crypt / 

5 Nergal


Library/ what is absolutely needed

10 Masters look mandatory to me.

2x Perfectionist

2x House of sorrow

2x Pentex subversion

2x DI

1x Giant's blood

1x Life boon


Actions, it is difficult to go without those 14:

8x Shatter the gates

1x Contagion

1x Concordance

2x Magic of the smith

2x Unleash hell's fury


Modifiers at least 22, we need

10x Freak drive

4x Enkil cog

4x Faceless night

4x Lost in crowds

... probably more


Equipements 3 look mandatory to me:

1x Ivory bow

1x Heart of Nizchetus

1x Bowl of convergence


in addition, we would need some reactions (15 or so)

4x eyes of argus

3x other wakes

3x telepathic misdirection

3x my enemy's enemy

3x other intercept cards


8 combat cards (6 majesties, 2 conflagrations for example)

and finally I would love being able to put this event module:

2x events without requirements

2x rise of the Nephtali

2x The rising

1x Fortschritt library



That makes already 80 cards! what do you think? is it viable as it is? It looks a little low for agressivity, except for playing the shatter the gates of course... Can some modules go away? you have the word!

18 commentaires:

Anonyme a dit…

What's the Life Boon for?

cheers,
-jakob

Tiago Brum a dit…

I don't think Contagion is a must. Rutur's hand is better, IMHO.
That could take the place of a Freak Drive.

Also, one Call the Great Beast for a buddy with AUS OBF FOR and all the sugar on top. I know this blows up Nergal, but IF you build the deck for this, you can change most of the masters for Villeins (so Nergal turn out to be cheap), while getting ready for a 2nd Nergal.

I prefer block denial to Faceless Night.

Either that or a Mistress Fanchon that Clan Impersonates... ;P

TTC_master a dit…

Life boon is for getting the game win if your prey does not die first and things go wrong

Brandonsantacruz a dit…

People are going to be really pissed off if you complete Shatter the Gates. I would expect a lot of table hate. To compliment your blocking strategy, I would include more Eyes of Argus, Elysium: Sforzesco Castle and Mental Maze.

To defend your superstar, especially considering your use of House of Sorrow, I'd throw in a Bleeding the Vine. You won't have to worry about AI, but Pentex could lead to people destroying your Gates.

I am Legion could be a good addition to get actions through and also gain a pool.

Drain a dit…

Veneficti (the new mage ally) is a good all-rounder for Baali, adds offence to the deck and can act as an ally blocker made to counter the pesky "unblockable by vampire" effects. It's also real cheap for what it does.


Drain

Anonyme a dit…

I think that you desperately need more intercept and more than 1 minion, because Pentex Subversion, seduction of block fails can easly destroy your deck. I suggest at least Neighbour John as Nergals assistant. I would also add some block fails that requires daimonion (I don't remember its name). I would also drop events for more important cards (mainly intercept, at least 1 rutors hand, maybe helicopter or sport bike)

Manituan a dit…

Valerius Maior ADV it´s a good option here. As an infernal assistant and as a really good bloquer.
I use Cybele to open the gates with animalism and Bloodstorm of Chorazin. Greetings.

Valek a dit…
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TTC_master a dit…

I am not really agreeing with all those intercept advices. I understand intercept is important (and how could I forget carlton, and the infernal mage???) but I want to complete gates between basically my grand predator's turn and my turn, so I don't think there will be much opportunity for my opponents to break them... against my predator, 2x DI might do the stuff enough to prevent him from bleeding and breaking.

If he manages to break 1, I can put another one during my prey's turn, should he not play too much stealth.

Valek a dit…

Made a decklist and started testing, you might have advices:

6 Nergal
2 Neighbor John
3 I dunno what to put in, atm various weenies with obf and aus

4 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 House of Sorrows
2 Direct Intervention
2 Perfectionist
1 Giant's Blood
1 Life Boon
1 KRCG Radio

1 Sportbike
1 Heart of Nizchetus
1 Ivory Bow
1 Bowl of Convergence

2 Carlton van Wyck
1 Venificus (that new mage)

6 Shatter the Gates
4 Unleash Hell's Fury
2 Magic of the Smith
2 Rutor's Hand

5 Freak Drive
2 Elder Impersonation
2 Psychomachia
5 Lost in Crowds
3 Enkil Cog

5 Majesty

3 Eyes of Argus
3 Force Vigilance
4 Telepathic Misdirection
2 Eagle Sight
2 My Enemy's Enemy
5 Bloodstorm of Chorazin
2 Undying Thirst

76 Cards

TTC_master a dit…

it looks pretty strong! at the moment I don't have much advice to be honest. Maybe other persons will. I will try to playtest something this week-end

Valek a dit…

Been testing this evening, and it looks ok, need some form of mild bloodgain and house of sorrows is not needed so can be replaced, ill post a modified list this weekend.

Valek a dit…

Working on new version with unnamed for pool gain, House of Sorrow will be needed in this one and more effective.

TTC_master a dit…

ok cool, waiting to see what you suggest. I don't see how you defend without AUSPEX

Valek a dit…

Here goes:

Crypt

Unnamed *5
The rest to be seen no idea yet

Decklist:

3 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Direct Intervention
2 House of Sorrow
2 Perfectionist
1 Wider View
1 KRCG
1 Life Boon
1 Giant's Blood
2 Vast Wealth
2 Guardian Angel

6 Shatter the Gates
4 Unleash Hells Fury

3 Homunculus
1 Mr Winthrop

2 Carlton Van Wyck
1 Mylan Horseed

5 Lost in Crowds
3 Swallowed by the Night
2 Elder Impersonation
2 Psychomachia
4 Enkil Cog

1 Sport Bike
1 Heart of Nizchetus
1 Helicopter

3 On the Qui Vive
4 Lost in Translation
2 Delaying Tactics
5 Sense the Sin

6 Earth Meld
2 Flesh of Marble
75

The deck has become more aggressive, and trickier, less dependant of the combo, although it can be quickly brought out if wanted.

House of Sorrows can untap Helicopter for some more actions, or the intercept location for some more intercept or cog of cours for a extra action in opponents turn

Valek a dit…

Been testing the Unnamed deck, but it is to slow and not more resillient, just the same.

I will work further with the first model, need to get pool gain in, and I dont want to go over the 75 cards.

So if anyone has a good suggestion that would be nice.

Was thinking about Tend the Flock, put blood on a small baali so i can influence back. What you think?

One thing i'm thinking about is that this deck will be need to played in a combat calm environment.

cheers

floppyzedolfin a dit…

I don't like your defense module, Orian.

No gain-pool cards, which is acceptable if your defense is really strong in a normal deck, but maybe not when your main vampire is infernal.

Maybe I would use a different reaction module, with Eluding the Arms of Morpheus and Mental Maze.

Anyway, I'll try to get a nice decklist with that card (shatter the gatess), but it could involve Hazimel and Clan Impersonation + Textbook Damnation. Just for the sakes of not being screwed by a weenie.

Ishvalan a dit…

Shatter the Gate is going to be the new trick in my valerius adv !tre wall heheh

nice blog!! =) I'll follow you
Cheers

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